Homunculus

Scoundrel Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 403

i'm not really feeling that this series is all that fucked up really
then again i think arigatou is way more fucked up than ichi

i just cant believe the dude also produced something like okama
report.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:38 am

hyah213 wrote:

i just cant believe the dude also produced something like okama report.

Yikes, is another group doing that crap manga?

Scoundrel Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 403

yeah zombie scans or something they are doing ping pong club
which is rather... interesting

i think they are all chicks too which makes the whole situation
very bizarre.

big idjit Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 280

HuhWhat wrote:

My sister's loving this series. Which means it must be really good. I like it as well, but not all too crazed by it. The story's very interesting though. I like the main character... he reminds me of an older me. Yup, can't wait to become a worthless scum of society.

Just please remember, if you're going to eat your own jizz... for the love of god wipe your mouth properly.

Groupie Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 118

When he burped was pretty funny. I don't think this is that messed up, since I've read worse...I think the whole "let's corrupt the spoiled rebellious teenager" subplot is getting weak though. The power play is interesting but its getting old. I hope they move on or get complicated...

I bet his friend will be annoyed that he beat him to his "prey". I wonder if there will be any effects to being kicked in the head right where the incision was...

Street Musician Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 302

I was under the impression that the subplot was not about "corrupting a spoiler rebellious teenager." To me the purpose of Homunculus in general is social commentary -- exposing the monsters within ourselves -- but with a decidedly positive undercurrent. Who doesn't love to see a mobster reduced to a child, weaknesses exposed, and healed.

As the mobster gave insight to humanity, this teenager acts as a form of social commentary: replace "spoiled rebellious teenager" with impressionable teenager and I think you hit the mark. When she was first introduced, we thought she was made of sand. We later learned that she was made up of "symbols" absorbed from her surroundings, constantly re-adapting -- but to what ends? I think that this is the question to be answered. I also think that she will be "healed" like the mobster.

Of interest to me is that the main character, Nakoshi, also absorbs a little bit of the homunculi. This seems like a very clear Jesus figure to me, where he washes away the monsters created by our sins and himself suffers.

I agree that the current arc of the story has been lolling. If I am right about the plot itself, perhaps the author is afraid that the story would become overly shonen-esque-repetetive, i.e., homunculus appears, Nakoshi figures it out, the reader feels some emotion, homunculus goes away, repeat. It will be interesting to see if and how Yamamoto deals with this.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:12 am

Me, I just wanna see more sex, man.

Street Musician Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 419

spaceman spork wrote:

Just please remember, if you're going to eat your own jizz... for the love of god wipe your mouth properly.

I think I'll keep a container of wipes under the seat...

Groupie Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 118

Speck wrote:

I was under the impression that the subplot was not about "corrupting a spoiler rebellious teenager." To me the purpose of Homunculus in general is social commentary -- exposing the monsters within ourselves -- but with a decidedly positive undercurrent. Who doesn't love to see a mobster reduced to a child, weaknesses exposed, and healed.

As the mobster gave insight to humanity, this teenager acts as a form of social commentary: replace "spoiled rebellious teenager" with impressionable teenager and I think you hit the mark. When she was first introduced, we thought she was made of sand. We later learned that she was made up of "symbols" absorbed from her surroundings, constantly re-adapting -- but to what ends? I think that this is the question to be answered. I also think that she will be "healed" like the mobster.

I suppose the girl could be representative of all Japanese modern middle-class teenage girls. A "normal" home environment where parents give her all that she needs but not in excess, where the the rules are held down, and the image of a "good girl" has to be maintained. Its obvious that this girl has never known real hardship due to the ordinariness of her life and her rather stupid idea of "rebellion". Thank god she hasn't been reduced to whining about how "my parents don't love me!". Ugh, get over it. I guess I can see this problem in real people though, at least on the level of girls who constantly change their personality, mannerisms, tastes, clothes, etc. to "fit in" with friends and society. Perhaps this is worse in a place like Japan where social harmony is so emphasized.

I liked the bit where they ask her "who are you?" and tell her not to define it within certain terms, but now I'm just sick of that brat.

But I agree with you, I think she will be cured somehow by all this. Or at least, move on.

I don't think Nakoshi wanted to corrupt or use her for sex, but I think the surgeon guy (forgot his name) was just using his experiment as an excuse to get some. Actually, doesn't he admit this anyway?

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Of interest to me is that the main character, Nakoshi, also absorbs a little bit of the homunculi. This seems like a very clear Jesus figure to me, where he washes away the monsters created by our sins and himself suffers.

I agree that the current arc of the story has been lolling. If I am right about the plot itself, perhaps the author is afraid that the story would become overly shonen-esque-repetetive, i.e., homunculus appears, Nakoshi figures it out, the reader feels some emotion, homunculus goes away, repeat. It will be interesting to see if and how Yamamoto deals with this.

I never thought of the Christ-like themes. I like that idea...

Street Musician Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 419

Speck wrote:

Of interest to me is that the main character, Nakoshi, also absorbs a little bit of the homunculi. This seems like a very clear Jesus figure to me, where he washes away the monsters created by our sins and himself suffers.

I don't know about that. To say he's like Jesus would kind of indicate that he actually cares about these people. Which I don't believe is his intention. He feels like a worthless scum of society (cum-eating) and wants to make himself feel better by being around people who are worse-off than himself. Then he unintentionally saves them from their "sufferings" and sinks a level deeper than when he started. (Homunculi Parts)

Then again, I have the intelligence of a three-year-old and everything semi-deep or philosophical has to be reinterpreted into EMO for my retarded mind to understand...

Can't wait to see how he'll "fix" the chef... Mmm.... *Awaits more cum-eating.*

Street Musician Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 302

I thought he ate his cum because of a twisted, ET-like connection with the symbols girl (who similarly ate her blood). I guess the similarity could end at the motions themselves (like the transition in River's Edge where the homo eats a dick and the bulimic slut eats her fist), but I still feel like the evidence is there for a deeper connection between our main character and the homunculi he faces.

Street Musician Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 419

The dialogue in the manga gave me the impression that he's been doing that for a while. Then again, it may have been the translator's error in translating it that way. (Not accusing anybody of anything...)

I'm still trying to figure out why he masturbated and ate his cum in the first place. Does he have some weird disorder where disgust turns him on? Or was he just bored?

Perhaps he always sees a little bit of himself in the monsters that he created in his head. It is only one person's view of the world after all. That may explain how he has such strong 'connection' with the freaks, as well as why he takes on a piece of the homunculi he cures. In fact, maybe his road to recovery is to take on the problems of others and thus become a normal human himself? Maybe he's the homunculus...

I'm not making any sense anymore.

Fan Boy Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 8 Location: WI

I personally think he just takes on a part of each person who he helps, as he kinda helps them carry the burden of their problems (thus the arm of the robot going to him). The way I said it may not make much sense though....

Street Musician Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 402

Ponent Mon is going to do Homonculus
http://www.ponentmon.com/new_pages/english/princ.html

Found out while checking the status of Kiriko Nananan's Blue (i want it soo badly...)

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:18 am

According to their message board, it sounds like they are doing the Spanish version but most likely not an English edition