Why are we here?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:57 pm

Which of the religons are correct? Is there a supperior being in this world and are we supposed to pray to him all are life? Are we just some experiment of god and it failed so now we are just a joke? Why are we here and are we even supposed to be here and are there others on distant planets. Im sorry to keep rambaling on but i can't stand just sitting here and accepting what people say they think is right and no one else is right. Why do we sit herew and learn things we will use but will it matter because in 70 years we're all dead. I don't eccpect you to answer any or all of my questions but it would be nice to talk to on the subbject.

Fan Boy Joined: 12 Oct 2002 Posts: 40

i talk to this hispanic kid named jesus about this on the bus all the time.

but really man. i don't even care about all these religions and such. they're dumb. i'd rather go around not knowing anything than be fed a bunch of crap

Puddin' Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 725

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:09 am

Yeah, what she said

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:23 am

but seriosly now i wanna know what peple think. I am actually picking a religion right now. So people can pick some choices for me if they want but try to put some reasons down. Actually, right now, Im an athiest who celabrates Christmas because its not really about Jesus anymore. Plus my grandmother gives the best presents Very Happy

. Some of the time im embarresd by my friends who think you can be a quarter jewish and half cathlic. What the .... You can only be one because its your faith. Buth even though this annoys me i do what Keela said and i give them courtisy and respect for what they wanna do.

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:41 pm

Christianity in a nutshell...

God created the earth in 6 days, (interpret this however you want, some are inclined to think that time to God is much longer than time to humans, so we are unable to fathom God’s time) everything was good but his creation Man he called “very good.” He created man to have fellowship with him, but he also gave man a free will, because without a free will it is impossible to truly love. God wanted love, he didn't want robots.
The only thing he required of man was that he tend to his garden and not eat the forbidden fruit for it would bring death. Adam persuaded by Eve ate the fruit and gained the knowledge of good and evil. Because of this he became a mortal being. When God confronted him about it, he lied to God about eating the fruit and was cast out of the garden. It was not eating the fruit which caused separation between Adam and God, it was a sin, however God is merciful, and it was the lie that made it impossible to come to God anymore.
Sin means separation, from the very first man we have been separated from God. That separateness was impassable until God out of mercy provided his children with a way to be redeemed. That redeemer was Jesus Christ. He came to die as an unblemished sacrifice to atone for our sins. We are all sinful, because of this anything we do that is “good” is actually tainted by evil, whether it is having the wrong motivation, or taking pride in the end product we always find a way to warp good things with our sin. This means that we can’t get to heaven just by “being good” because inherently there is nothing in us that is good. This is why God gave us his son; because we could not live by the Law of Moses he gave us mercy.
It is one thing acknowledging Jesus exists; it is another thing following him. Even the demons mentioned in the bible acknowledged that Jesus was the son of God; however this did not mean they got salvation. Historians acknowledge that Jesus was a man that walked this earth, so do Buddhists and Muslims yet they won’t be saved because Jesus requires us to follow him. This is the meaning of life.
Life according to Jesus is simply living for him. This entails that we understand that the life we spend on this earth in these shells of flesh is only a blink compared to eternity. Seeing the “eternal” picture is the meaning of this life, for if living is just dieing than the most important thing to live for is for what you will have after you die. “He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.” – Jim Elliot

(if you need further explainations or have questions just ask)

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 3:15 am

nice, a little long, but very nice thanks for your imput Smile

p.s. sorrry if i got a little carried away at the top with my ranting.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 3:11 am

Izumi wrote:

God created the earth in 6 days

Actually, the majority of the old testament was written about a thousand years prior to 0 A.D. by the Deudoronimatis (sp?) during the Babylonian exile. At that time, only a few books of the bible had been collected, and this group that reflected upon the bulk of Christian civilization, took it upon themselves to come up with what we would call parables (they considered God them inspired, but that's the ultimate religous cop-out). This was done to provide a guide for how Christians should live, the six days of work and one day of rest was written to emphasize the importance of the Sabbath day. The circumsion was written to promote a physical diffrences between the Jews of that day and their Babylonian captors. Noah's ark was written to show that there must be a pairing of people, to limit the number of sexual partners the people had. The new testament of the bible is were the main bulk of, what one of faith considers, real accounts take place.

These are the kind of things you learn in Catholic school, a group that are bent on crushing its own religion. In fact, even though I wasn't Catholic (just going to the school, I was raised Mennonite), it did crush my religion to the point where I can believe in God but I cannot believe in religion; I'm like an Atheist with a higher power. If you're looking at religions, whatever you do, don't go Catholic... Or Mennonite for that matter (it's like being Amish, but with electricity).

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 3:39 am

neat

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 5:05 pm

The first five books of the bible are called the pentitude, all of these were written by Moses... almost every book of the bible has a different writer. Only Paul and Moses wrote more than a couple books. (66 books in the bible, between 40-50 different writers...)
The first couple paragraphs of this pdf file tell more about where the bible came from and who it was written by.
http://users.dcr.net/~brbc/bible/HISTORY1.PDF

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 6:24 pm

Actually Moses did write some of the pentitude, but Genesis was originally only a few chapters, most of it was written afterwards, as well as most of the old testament. Moses' name was affixed to the newer versions, to make them seem legitimate, to the point where some books that were written completely by the editors at the time were attributed to him.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 9:44 am

oh, i did not know that, thanks Abrasive

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 6:02 pm

You show me acredited sources that say that and i might listen, but from every historical text i've consulted i've found nothing to support your claim. Your skeptical claims are fine, but undermining someone else's beliefs with them isn't.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 12:52 am

It's a book called The Hebrew Scriptures, it's a standard textbook for an intro to Catholic Christainity, if you want more, read some Jewish examinations of the Bible (a religion that beats out the Catholics in terms of trying to disprove it's own religion). As a side note, I wasn't undermining anything, I was telling you what undermined my religion (not my faith, just my religion). Because fo what I read, I've chosen only to use the Old Testament as a guide, not a rulebook, the new testament is what I read when I want to know how to live my life.

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all this talk goes over my head. Shocked

i have no idea why we are here. but if anyone wants to know how not to live their lives i have a few good tips.