Permission to a Vietnamese scanlation group?

Fan Boy Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 4

Good day, everyone.
I'm from a Vietnamese scanlation group called C.L.O - Camp of the Lazy Otaku and I'm here to request your permission for us to translate some of your projects into our language - Vietnamese. I'd already talked with sir Stephen Paul about this and got his approval. However, I later realized that sir Paul didn't scan anything so I saw the need getting you guy to approve this also. Cool

O' Mighty Mangascrenner, please bestow upon this lowly.... I mean, lovely life-form thy godly crafted scanlations of Naoki Urasawa's holy works such as Beta!, Happy!, Monster, Pluto and especially 20th Century Boys.
I request thy permission on such projects for these can not be fallen into the wrong hands. However, if thou doth not listen to my prayer, there are concequences thou must face and it means... a suicide bombing on thy manga collection. Twisted Evil

That, as a fellow otaku, I know would be the most painful and thou shalt bear that horrible moment until the day thou got thy names written on the Death Note. Crying or Very sad

Heed my advice and fulfill my prayer or.... be prepare.
--End of chapter 1-- You can find latest chapters only on mIRC, we don't support direct download due to the lack of website.

I can promise thee that all of thy credits shall be kept intact and all of your translations shall be nicely translated to Vietnamese. What's more? (I'm NOT trying to make it look like a commercial, you know) thy banner shall deserve the very best, the very top place of our banner column. I won't shame you Mangascreener, I won't shame you, sir Paul.

By the way, how about giving us H2, Beck, Witch, Mushishi, Sexy voice and Robo, Homunculus and For those of us who don't believe in god, too? Er, is that too many? I'll come and ask permission for those sooner or later, you'd better give me 'em now or you will be bothered again and again and again. No, truly, since you are the greatest scanlation group on the net, it's normal for any group to want all of your projects. Since not many scanlation groups in Vietnam seem to have taken them, I'll take them.

May the blessing of Lady Luck's always upon you,
Quoc
C.L.O staff

Fan Boy Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 4

I spent sometimes venture your forum and saw that asking permission to use your scanlations is quite a big no-no here, so I'll stop being such a pain as to continue asking for your permission and find my own scans instead.

However, even though I said that I'll scan my own books, there are tons of books that took great effort to find, given the fact that I'm in Vietnam and don't have a credit card. So I would be most thankful if I'm allowed to use any single page of your scan, or your translation (Hell, I've only studied Japanese for 2 days). Please let me know if such things are possible.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:10 am

It's not exactly forbidden to ask, that I know of. But I think most people who have been doing this sort of thing for a while are just a wee bit too tired of that question to actually answer.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:56 pm

I think it's kind of silly because we don't ask the Japanese publishers and authors permission to use their material, so I don't see why we should expect people to ask us for permission to use our scans and translations.

Scoundrel Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 403

In the end its up to the consensus of people who worked on the project...
if one of them doesn't want it to be used in that manner... etc. etc.

That's if you want permission. If you don't, well... how are we going to
stop you? It's happened in the past I'm sure... I doubt any of us
us actually care enough to track it down and bitch.

Anyways, I don't give a shit either way about stuff I've worked on but
a myriad of people have worked on them (Mainly flyingrobots) so
I'm going to pass the buck to them esp since my input was fairly
negligible in the scheme of things... even more so lately.

Fan Boy Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 4

I asked for your permission only because I respect and appreciate your hard work AND I expect a positive answer, a 'yes'. You know full well why you, me or anybody else who is doing scanlation wouldn't ask the authors because we don't, not in a million year, hope to receive a 'yes'. And we still do scanlation, not for fame, not for anything but for the love of manga.

We, or any other scanlation group in Vietnam respect the other scanlation groups around the world and would not rip off their work without their permission. However, some of us are considering going underground since we couldn't get permission for several of our beloved series while buying original books from Japan is quite impossible for us, with little budget and all... If that were to happen, I am therefore sorry for any ripping off. We will keep your credits, put your banner on our website whatever happens, though, for you deserve that at the very least. Thanks to you, great manga has been known to us.

We, however, are trying our best to remain an above-ground group. Some of us are learning Jap, some of us are asking their Jap friend to bring old manga they don't need anymore, etc. Because of that, we will be so damn appreciate it if Mangascreener would give us her approval on some of her projects, that would be the best.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:20 am

Well, I don't really mind if you use any scans that I made. (Not that many of those fit your list there...)

But I can't say whether I approve or not. Since I don't know your language and I'm not interested enough to look up how you manage to handle the editing.

Street Musician Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 530

MQG wrote:

We, or any other scanlation group in Vietnam respect the other scanlation groups around the world and would not rip off their work without their permission. However, some of us are considering going underground since we couldn't get permission for several of our beloved series while buying original books from Japan is quite impossible for us, with little budget and all...

See, in my prior experience the latter happens precisely because the former is not true. Not that I really care or have any sort of say in the matter.

Fan Boy Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 4

Nah, if the former is not true, I wouldn't be here in the first place. I also found 2 representatives of 2 other groups here asking you guys too. Can't really say we don't respect you guys and your works, don't you think?

And if we can easily buy original books from Japan and scan them, we wouldn't bother you guys with this babbling. Manga in Vietnam are sold for around 50cent / volumn. Now paying $5/ volumn would really drain up our life force. But why would we want to scanlate if we can buy manga at such a price? Because the manga here are crap, characters' names are changed, translations are ****, quality is bottom-notch and every girl that wears anything that is shorter than their thigh (doesn't cover their knees) got censored or redrawn. And anything that is not mainstream hardly got published, and that include 20th Century Boys, Homunculus, I''s and the likes...

To bring the masses with such masterpieces is a knightly task..., I guess not... Whatever, as I said we do this because we, like you, love manga and wish to share our favourites to other. And if you really can't help us with the scans, then at the very least, could you please give us some hints as where to look for old, rare manga as well as where to find manga at a cheap price?

Last but not least, I'd like to thank pnyxtr for your not-mindingness, I really appreciated this.